Applying Our Culture Practically
Applying Our Culture Practically
There are some issues I've found where there's a gap between the Mando ideal and the actual actions. For instance, the resol'nare. Armor doesn't seem practical in today's day. I apply it as keeping a weapon on me at all times and wearing practical clothes (durable, cheap, and with less noticeable colors), because armor is both to protect you and identify you as a Mando. I'm calling it as I see it, so I welcome you guy's opinions.
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Here is how I personally apply the guideline about wearing amrour:
I *would* keep a weapon on me at all times, but I am a pacifist (and any weapon you carry can end up being used against you). Beyond that, though, my hands are weapons, my tongue is a weapon, my brain is a weapon. I do carry tools and a pocket knife with me everywhere for practicality's sake as well.
I *would* keep a weapon on me at all times, but I am a pacifist (and any weapon you carry can end up being used against you). Beyond that, though, my hands are weapons, my tongue is a weapon, my brain is a weapon. I do carry tools and a pocket knife with me everywhere for practicality's sake as well.
Mandoa.Org - Bringing together the Mando'a Community.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I don't have any armor yet, but I do plan to get a mythosaur necklace.
I also carry useful tools too, figure that's just common sense.![Smile :)](./images/smilies/Smiley-Pack-SB/07-smile.gif)
I also carry useful tools too, figure that's just common sense.
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/Smiley-Pack-SB/07-smile.gif)
- Vlet Hansen
- Verd
- Posts: 688
- Joined: 15 Sep 2012 14:49
- Location: Trans-Hydian borderlands
- Contact:
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I dress practically, carry a pistol as a matter of habit, and I wear a kyr'bes ring.
Shi adate kotep luubid...
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
How dikut'la of me to forget dogtags... Along the line of clothing (no pun intended, ori'haat), what about suits for us churchgoers? Suits are expensive, not very durable, and uncomfortable; however, maybe in this case something normally purposeless is actually purposefull because society deems suits as more socially acceptable for church. Hence, those who don't "dress up" for an event are seen as poor or sloppy. Thoughts, anyone? Also, to each his own, Adi'karta, but how does being ne'kaan'la work with being Mando, New Mandalorian maybe? (I ask because I have a, let's say burc'ya, who is a pacifist, and the more I know, the better vod I can be)
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I'm going to build myself beskar'gam as soon as it is feasible. I've been trying to determine how many places I could wear it and get away with it.....
I'm pretty sure I couldn't wear it to work, but everywhere else?
Maybe if I didn't have any blasters with me. Most places probably have a no bu'cye rule too...
Just out of curiosity, have any vode tried openly wearing beskar'gam as per the Resol'nare?
I'm pretty sure I couldn't wear it to work, but everywhere else?
Maybe if I didn't have any blasters with me. Most places probably have a no bu'cye rule too...
Just out of curiosity, have any vode tried openly wearing beskar'gam as per the Resol'nare?
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Hardly dikut'la -- it's not exactly an officially-proscribed means of identifying one's allegiance within the Star Wars canon, let alone the Mandalorian culture.Tempest wrote:How dikut'la of me to forget dogtags...
I would say wearing socially-acceptable clothing counts in a way -- you are respecting yourself and respecting those around you by caring for your appearance, so I'd say that's in line with the Resol'nare, as respect seems to be one of the underlying tenets behind everything Mandalorian.Tempest wrote:Hence, those who don't "dress up" for an event are seen as poor or sloppy. Thoughts, anyone?
Lol the New Mandalorians. They're a ridiculous caricature of what nonviolence and commitment to neutrality is. Rather than getting involved and becoming peacemakers, they avoided the conflict and acted like panicked hermits. That is a course of action based in fear and is just as unproductive as reacting with violence, which can only lead to eventually being taken advantage of and destroyed.Tempest wrote:Also, to each his own, Adi'karta, but how does being ne'kaan'la work with being Mando, New Mandalorian maybe?
Here's my personal take on nonviolence; please pardon any cognitive dissonance -- we all do what we must to continue living happily:
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Mandoa.Org - Bringing together the Mando'a Community.
- Vlet Hansen
- Verd
- Posts: 688
- Joined: 15 Sep 2012 14:49
- Location: Trans-Hydian borderlands
- Contact:
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I come from a very different school of thought regarding guns, though I suppose that might be due to where I live.
I've carried a pistol for a while now, and not once has it ever had more of an effect on my life than the requirement that I act sensibly, since rash action and guns is a poor mix. Never had to draw it, never had to mention it, never had any trouble from it.
Hopefully, that's how it'll be for the rest of my life, and it'll only ever leave the holster for training and cleaning.
However, in the unlikely but not impossible event that something happens, I'd not want to try my luck fighting someone trying to kill me or someone else with anything but a gun. Martial arts and nonlethal weaponry just aren't as reliable, and many cases of defensive handgun usage don't require a shot to be fired to nullify the threat, since many criminals will reconsider their choices when faced with the possibility that they'll die from them.
In the end, a weapon you don't actually carry with you does you no good, and in a life or death situation, you should use the best weapon available to you.
I've carried a pistol for a while now, and not once has it ever had more of an effect on my life than the requirement that I act sensibly, since rash action and guns is a poor mix. Never had to draw it, never had to mention it, never had any trouble from it.
Hopefully, that's how it'll be for the rest of my life, and it'll only ever leave the holster for training and cleaning.
However, in the unlikely but not impossible event that something happens, I'd not want to try my luck fighting someone trying to kill me or someone else with anything but a gun. Martial arts and nonlethal weaponry just aren't as reliable, and many cases of defensive handgun usage don't require a shot to be fired to nullify the threat, since many criminals will reconsider their choices when faced with the possibility that they'll die from them.
In the end, a weapon you don't actually carry with you does you no good, and in a life or death situation, you should use the best weapon available to you.
Shi adate kotep luubid...
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Well said, vod.Vlet Hansen wrote: In the end, a weapon you don't actually carry with you does you no good, and in a life or death situation, you should use the best weapon available to you.
Working on getting my CHL pretty soon as well. I agree with your sentiment on the matter wholly, and I feel that does seem somewhat relevant to the resol'nare applied in our culture.
![Image](http://i.imgur.com/Q0PaR9I.png?2)
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
You guys feel free to keep discussing the other issues, but I'd like to bring up another big thing. So, there's this new mindset I've been seeing more of in workplaces, and it has been in mine for awhile. My boss recently took me aside and praised my new work ethic (I've gradually been becoming more mandakarla over the last 5 years), but he expressed disappointment that I am not completely emotionally invested in the "workplace family". I am honestly a bit biased as I know someone biologically close to me who lives for their job and ignores their family. Is it just that I need to be more committed to both? I get the sense I won't be fired over this, but I want to cater to my employer's wishes, as it is professional. I believe a job is simply to put food on the table, and I yearn to put my aliit first. Yet it seems many wellpaying workplaces promote this work family concept. How can I balance this? I leave this to all your opinions.
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
The "work family" dynamic can be fun and rewarding, but it can also be dangerous or disruptive. This seems to be a bigger thing in agency/startup culture, especially among younger professionals or folks who miss the old fraternity/sorority days from college.
As with most things in life I recommend balance. I personally am on friendly terms with my coworkers and will occasionally go for drinks with them or whatever, but I'm not going to put them before my friends and family, as I already have significant social obligations. The exception would be the one or two coworkers with whom I have formed friendships which extend outside of the workplace. There is also the risk of drama in the "work family" becoming disruptive in the workplace or resulting in unprofessional behaviour.
In the end I'd say it's entirely your choice, and you should make that decision after weighing your interest, your personal style of socialisation, how introverted/extroverted you are, and (most importantly) your other social obligations. If you barely have time for your hobbies and the friends you already have, pursuing the "work family" will probably end up making you miserable and/or tired.
As with most things in life I recommend balance. I personally am on friendly terms with my coworkers and will occasionally go for drinks with them or whatever, but I'm not going to put them before my friends and family, as I already have significant social obligations. The exception would be the one or two coworkers with whom I have formed friendships which extend outside of the workplace. There is also the risk of drama in the "work family" becoming disruptive in the workplace or resulting in unprofessional behaviour.
In the end I'd say it's entirely your choice, and you should make that decision after weighing your interest, your personal style of socialisation, how introverted/extroverted you are, and (most importantly) your other social obligations. If you barely have time for your hobbies and the friends you already have, pursuing the "work family" will probably end up making you miserable and/or tired.
Mandoa.Org - Bringing together the Mando'a Community.
- Vlet Hansen
- Verd
- Posts: 688
- Joined: 15 Sep 2012 14:49
- Location: Trans-Hydian borderlands
- Contact:
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I'll admit bias on that, since the military does that as a matter of course anyway.
Shi adate kotep luubid...
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I have two questions to ask. One is why it seems mostly men make up the Mando'ade. Two is if any taken Mandos have advice for those of us who are single on both finding a spouse and interacting with their family with the Mandalorian/American culture gap.
*chuckles* Yes, lads, we're finally talking about girls but let's keep it appropriate.
*chuckles* Yes, lads, we're finally talking about girls but let's keep it appropriate.
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I'm not sure that they do. Over on the Mandalorian Mercs boards there appears to be a goodly number of dalyce verde(not sure on the plural spelling).Tempest wrote:One is why it seems mostly men make up the Mando'ade.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
I suppose I meant not that there aren't any, but rather why there seem to be fewer dalyc vode (dalyc is an adjective, and it is unnecessary to pluralize it).
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Spoiler: show
Mandoa.Org - Bringing together the Mando'a Community.
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Alright, here's another one: influence. Let's start with our culture impacting the world around us. How obvious do you guys let your Mando-ness be and why? And also, I believe the Mando culture is real (if there was one American left on the Earth in a thousand years, American culture would be real), but there are those who give me a funny look and say "isn't it that language from Star Wars", implying that Mandos being in Star Wars somehow makes Mando culture a load of osik. How do you guys deal with someone saying our culture is complete osik? I welcome you guys' feedback!
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.
-
- Verd
- Posts: 85
- Joined: 28 May 2016 09:37
- Location: Nu'Mandalore - ori'trikar, ibac
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
As a Jedi of Mando heritage - rather than specifically and deliberately a Mando'ad - believe me I get people saying my lifestyle and beliefs are osik. That said, I'm also not in America. I don't know how uptight people are over there.
Re. 'it's from Star Wars' - so what? There are people who sort themselves into Harry Potter houses and align themselves with Team Cap and Team Iron Man, and society doesn't blink an eye; what's wrong with saying 'I'm a Jedi' or 'ni'cuy Mando'ad' (apart from the probable problem with my grammar)? Point is, Jedi and Mandos have codes we bind ourselves by, codes anyone can go online and find - we can be counted on to be a neutral-to-good influence overall.
Um... guess my answer to your actual question is 'very, very, obvious because this is who I am, I don't see anything wrong with being this way, and I really don't give a flying kriff what anyone else thinks of that.' And yes, I wear a Padawan braid, and yes, with short hair so it's visible all the time, and yes, I have a legitimate job where 'professional attire' is part of the contract, and no, nobody has a problem with that.
And... everyone, everyone has someone who thinks their culture is osik.
I can understand it might be difficult for a cultural Mando to avoid saying 'Copaani mirshmure'cye, di'kut?' to that, but I guess you need to decide: can you just say 'this is my culture, please respect that, you are currently being really rude,' or do you have to go all verdyc on him? Because the Jedi approach is to shrug and say 'you're entitled to your opinion', and let it go.
Re. 'it's from Star Wars' - so what? There are people who sort themselves into Harry Potter houses and align themselves with Team Cap and Team Iron Man, and society doesn't blink an eye; what's wrong with saying 'I'm a Jedi' or 'ni'cuy Mando'ad' (apart from the probable problem with my grammar)? Point is, Jedi and Mandos have codes we bind ourselves by, codes anyone can go online and find - we can be counted on to be a neutral-to-good influence overall.
Um... guess my answer to your actual question is 'very, very, obvious because this is who I am, I don't see anything wrong with being this way, and I really don't give a flying kriff what anyone else thinks of that.' And yes, I wear a Padawan braid, and yes, with short hair so it's visible all the time, and yes, I have a legitimate job where 'professional attire' is part of the contract, and no, nobody has a problem with that.
And... everyone, everyone has someone who thinks their culture is osik.
I can understand it might be difficult for a cultural Mando to avoid saying 'Copaani mirshmure'cye, di'kut?' to that, but I guess you need to decide: can you just say 'this is my culture, please respect that, you are currently being really rude,' or do you have to go all verdyc on him? Because the Jedi approach is to shrug and say 'you're entitled to your opinion', and let it go.
Duumir cuy haat acyk gar kar'ta bal haa Dral. An ashi dar'cuy. - Surenit Kli'qiy
- Vlet Hansen
- Verd
- Posts: 688
- Joined: 15 Sep 2012 14:49
- Location: Trans-Hydian borderlands
- Contact:
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Pro tip: real warriors don't get bent out of shape over the opinions of others
Shi adate kotep luubid...
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
![Image](http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae102/mando_raeth/Mandoa%20bal%20Mandoade/MandoaOrgForumBanner-0002copy_zpsa912fd0c.png)
Re: Applying Our Culture Practically
Glad to hear from you guys!
*looks at Vlet and nods agreement*
*looks at Belandrie* That's usually the approach I take, because, though I'm no fan of jettise, I prefer not to step on toes if I can avoid it. I still recognize, though, that Mandalorian honor requires me to stand tall and respect others' opinions, both in equally obvious proportions. Also, to each 'is own, but without literal midi-chlorians how does being a jetii work? I've always thought your abilities to be important to your way of life.
*looks at Vlet and nods agreement*
*looks at Belandrie* That's usually the approach I take, because, though I'm no fan of jettise, I prefer not to step on toes if I can avoid it. I still recognize, though, that Mandalorian honor requires me to stand tall and respect others' opinions, both in equally obvious proportions. Also, to each 'is own, but without literal midi-chlorians how does being a jetii work? I've always thought your abilities to be important to your way of life.
Last edited by Tempest on 16 Jun 2016 17:58, edited 2 times in total.
Darasuum kote? Wer'cuy. Kartaylir darasuum ner vode? Darasuum te ori'waadasla.