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Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Raeth » 15 Dec 2013 21:25

Nu'ni borari ibi'tuur. Ibic cuy jate. Ni cuyi haryc.

Haryc... haryc... Ni copaani cuyir haryc b'aalyc! :D A'jii shi cuyi haryc.

Jii ni enteyo tsikador skraan par ner ad'e bal cinarin.

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Re: Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Vlet Hansen » 16 Dec 2013 03:37

Shab, meh'shi ni lise pirur ib'ca! Trikar'la, ni ke'borar nakar'tuur...
Ret'pirimmu "entey," nu"enteyo"?
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Re: Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Raeth » 16 Dec 2013 15:41

Vlet Hansen wrote:Shab, meh'shi ni lise pirur ib'ca! Trikar'la, ni ke'borar nakar'tuur...
Ret'pirimmu "entey," nu"enteyo"?


Entey? Enteyo? Narirla'miit urakto! Ni ven kebbu hibirar. :oops:

Ibi'tuur ni ke'cinari bal ke'bora. A'shi copaani vaabir beroya bal hibirar Mando'a.

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Ori'haat kyr'yc ca cin vhetin ru olaro. Tion ibi'tuur vutyc ?
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Eh, ner'jahaal nu'jate ib'tuur. Balyc, ner vaar haa'vod cuy di'kutla. Nu'jatne.
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Unread postby Raeth » 17 Dec 2013 23:50

Ni or'parguu ner bora. Naysol dikut'la shabuire. Nu'Aruetiise suvari aliit. Aruetiise cuyi aruetyc. Nu cuyi Mandokar.

A' ni guuro 'caf'! XD Bal ni kar'tayli darasuum ner ad'e. :)
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Ni kar'tayl ibac aalar, vod. Ner bora yaihi'l b'shabuire.
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Unread postby Raeth » 18 Dec 2013 23:42

Ibi'tuur nu'ni borari. Oya! Tion ven hibira Mando'a? Tion ven nari geroya? Tion ven nuhoyi? Tion ven cinari? AN'KEBISE?!?
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Ner Solyc Ruus'alor (Arasuum hiibir kaysh) ru'kegyce mhi olaror ori'vaar.
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Unread postby Raeth » 19 Dec 2013 22:43

Ibi'tuur dar'ca'nara. Ni ven miit'gaana nakar'tuur. N'eparavu takisit. :(
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Bic naas, vod. Bic cuy meh bic cuy.
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Unread postby Raeth » 20 Dec 2013 23:32

Vlet Hansen wrote:Bic naas, vod. Bic cuy meh bic cuy.


Vor'e, ner vod. ;)

Kyr'yc ca haryc 'b'aalyc shabuir ru'jurkad ni o'r bora. cuyi Mando'ad ru'gaa'tayli. ni ru'cuyi udesla. Oya Manda darasuum! (bakyc, v'ore, PD!)
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Ibic bora... ni copaani ba'slan shev'la! XD
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Ni copaani ibac balyc, vod.
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Re: Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Raeth » 11 Jan 2014 19:17

'Lek, ni suvari te takisit. 'Lek, ni suvari gar copaan dirycir ni. 'Lek, ni suvari gar ru haaranov miit'la cheka'n.

Ni cuyi ori'kaden.

Ni ru dinui ner jatne. Ni ru dinui ner kar'tayl. Ni ru dinui ner ori'kar'ta. Ni ru cuy'rejorhaa' ner jatne cuy be'hut'uun miite.

Ni cuyi ori'kaden.

Ni cuyi Mando'ad. Be'verd kar'ta cuy'oyacyan o'r ni. Nu'ni cuyi dikut.

Ni cuyi ori'kaden.

Ke emuur gar uvet.
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Unread postby Raeth » 14 Jan 2014 11:29

Ni cuyi tracyn. Ni cuyi atin.
Ner kovid cuy muun'la, a'ner kar'ta cuy haat.
Ni ru nari kadala ner vode, a'ni baati ner vode darasuum.
Akaani ti ner vode; kar'tayli ner vode.
Dral kaden; dral kar'taylir.
Ori'haat, ni cuy Mando'ad bal'ban.
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Unread postby Vlet Hansen » 14 Jan 2014 15:30

Ni nu'viinir verd'goten be'Besh ol'averde!
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Re: Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Raeth » 16 Jan 2014 04:59

Ni ru hiibi ner ad'ike1 bah edee'baar'ur2 ibi'tuur. Pirur gal shal edeejahaal'yaim'ika3 cuy dush. Projorcu4, ni ru kov'hibira5 Mando'a bid'narit6.



Translation Help and Notes (Don't read this if you want to try and puzzle it out by yourself first!):

1. I believe that in the KT Rep'Comm novels I read a colloquial usage of ade and ika said, "ad'ike" (plural of "ad'ika). The meaning, of course, being something akin to, 'dear little children'.

2. edee'baar'ur : edee is teeth, baar'ur is medic; therefore, I made a new compound word - edee'baar'ur - to mean 'dentist' (teeth + medic).

3. edeejahaal'yaim'ika : edee is teeth, jahaal is health, yaim is home; this is three new compound words: the first compound is jahaal'yaim to mean 'hospital' (health + home), the second is jahaal'yaim'ika to mean 'clinic' or other smaller medical office (health + home + little), and the third is edeejahaal'yaim'ika to mean 'dental clinic' or 'dentist's office' (teeth + health + home + little).

4. projorcu : projor is next, jorcu is because; I made this compound to serve the meaning 'therefore' or 'thus' or 'so' (next + because).

5. kov'hibira : kovid/kov' is head, hibirar is to learn; this compound was meant to emphasize learning something academic in nature, that is, 'to study' (head + learn).

6. bid'narit : bid is so (as in to a degree; e.g., so big, so sharp, so heavy), naritir; this compound is a little more esoteric in its formulation, but the idea is that something is to such a degree that something else was inserted in its place, or 'instead' (so (much so) + inserted, placed).

I am fairly certain 1 was used by KT herself. 2, 3, 4, and 5 seem fairly consistent and nearly self-explanatory. 6 is the only Evaar'oya Mando'a (New Living Mando'a) word that I'm not sure I am entirely happy with. That one may come under personal revision later if I think of something better. At the time I was writing this out on paper, I was sitting in a child's wooden chair at a table about a foot-and-a-half off the floor trying alternate between entertaining one of my kids while the other was getting work done.

Aside from that, I have made use of the Mando'a beten ( ' ) mark to try and show where 'natural' pauses should occur to facilitate the easy pronunciation of words. The word that went the most alterations in this regard was jahaal'yaim for hospital. The entymological meaning seemed clear, but when I first wrote it as "jahaalyaim", making a clear pronunciation of the middle between the '-all' and the 'yai-' was a little muddled. By adding the beten pause, pronunciation became more clear, and the word as a whole became easier to say.
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Re: Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Vlet Hansen » 16 Jan 2014 17:44

[Not sure what the "run" in the first sentence means here, maybe you fatfingered "ru"? On "adi'ke", yes, KT used that. It's proper. For bid'narit, the closest comparison I can get is "o'r taap b'ashi", so I guess you're more fluid than anything I have...]
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Re: Ner tuur-de-tuur miite

Unread postby Raeth » 16 Jan 2014 23:06

Vlet Hansen wrote:[Not sure what the "run" in the first sentence means here, maybe you fatfingered "ru"? On "adi'ke", yes, KT used that. It's proper. For bid'narit, the closest comparison I can get is "o'r taap b'ashi", so I guess you're more fluid than anything I have...]


'Lek, ast'ehutla gaan'kale (gaan = hand; kal = blade; hand + blade = finger?). :oops: :lol:
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Gaan'kal... ra gaan'ika? Sa "me'suum" bal "me'suum'ika"?
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