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Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 04 Dec 2017 21:07
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
I'll start this one by retranslating 35, because I'm not too happy with how it came out last time.

35. That which does not kill you has made a tactical error.
Ibac meg ne'nari kyr'amur ni ru'gotal kyramla dunar.
That which does not kill me has made [a] fatal error.

36. When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support.
Gar cuy draar bid atin'la meg ne'lis jor par gaa'tay.
You are never so tough that [you] can't call for help.

37. There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "reload."
Naysol besbe'trayce cuyi draar luubid.
Too many weapons is never enough.

38. What's easy for you can still be hard on your clients.
Cuyi tra acyk "pakod narir" bal "ash'ad liser." Ne'chur'waad garast.
There is a space (difference) between "easy to do" and "anyone can [do]." Don't under-price yourself.

39. There is a difference between spare parts and extra parts.
Cuyi tra acyk ne'liniba ne'tome ne'pirimmu ne'tome.
There is a space (difference) between unneeded parts and unused parts.

40. Not all good news is enemy action.
Ne'an jate'evaar'miit cuyi aru'e'nari.
Not all good news is enemy action.

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 26 Dec 2017 20:40
by Adi'karta
Apparently I need to read more Schlock Mercenary. I haven't read any since high school (a decade-and-change ago). These are fantastic.

One note: the closest concept to "sin" that Kar'buir injected into the language is probably dar'manda.

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 27 Dec 2017 16:35
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
Yeah, I've been following it for a few years and it's great. According to the author, he's actually getting ready to end the story within the next year or two. Which makes sense, because biological immortality for everyone in the galaxy is within reach and the AI singularity is rapidly approaching, so he's running out of sharks to jump.

Also, thanks for the heads-up, but I'm happy with how #4 turned out (though the phrasing could use a little tweaking once I finish the rest). My translation philosophy is to prioritize author's intent over original wording, so while a squad may feel differently, I don't think being a stupid lieutenant is quite enough to warrant being disowned by their culture. xD "Sin" is idiomatically significantly less severe than "dar'manda," if only because sins can be forgiven.

41. "Do you have a backup?" means "I can't fix this."
"Tion gan tadyc?" sirbu "Ne'gotal ibic."
"Do have second?" says "Can't fix this."

42. "They'll never expect this" means "I want to try something stupid."
"Val ne'ban'tioni ibic" sirbu "Ni copaan kebuur jare'la dajun."
"They not-guess this" says "I want to try stupid plan."

43. If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky.
Meh cuyi dikut'la bal borari, cuyi su'dikut'la bal gar cuy jate'kara.
If is stupid and works, is still-stupid and you're lucky.

44. If it will blow a hole in the ground, it will double as an entrenching tool.
Meh lise gotal palon o'r vheh, tebece ven'borari as vheh'gaanur'se.
If can make hole in ground, munitions will-work as shovels.

45. The size of the combat bonus is inversely proportional to the likelihood of surviving to collect it.
Gar ne'lis pirim waade meg waad gar oyar.
You can't use money that cost your life.

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 28 Dec 2017 17:32
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
46. Don't try to save money by conserving ammunition.
Nu'kebb tegaanalir waade de tegaanal'an tebece.
Not-try to save money by saving ammunition.

47. Don't expect the enemy to cooperate in the creation of your dream engagement.
Ne'par par aru'e narir gar bora par gar. ((Translator's note: I don't think I managed to fit enough A's into this sentence.))
Not-wait for enemy to do your job for you.

48. If it ain't broke, it hasn't been issued to the infantry.
Trat'aab cuyi shukur kebise. Cerat val shal aru'e ru besbalor cu'ami kaden.
Infantry exists to break things. Point them at enemy before quartermaster becomes angry.

49. Every client is one missed payment away from becoming a target and every target is one bribe away from becoming a client.
Nar bora par meg gar as'gaan ber. Ne'cuy gaanadyc beh meg lise beri.
Do job for which you receive payment. Not-be picky about who can pay.

50. If it only works in exactly the way the manufacturer intended, it is defective.
Meh shi borari boru gotur copaani, cuyi di'kutla.
If only works how manufacturer wants, it's useless.

New words:
Besbalor (noun): quartermaster. Root words besbe (gear), alor (officer, leader).
Gaanadyc (adjective): selective, picky. Root word gaanader (choose, select).

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2017 19:12
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
51. Let them see you sharpen the sword before you fall on it.
Tran gar takisit ru gar eparav bic.
Shine your insult before you eat it.

52. The army you've got is never the army you want.
Akaan'ade gar gan cuyi draar akaan'ade gar copaan.
Army you have is never army you want.

53. The intel you've got is never the intel you want.
Narjahail'miit gar gan cuyi draar narjahail'miit gar copaan.
Intel you have is never intel you want.

54. It's only too many troops if you can't pay them.
Shi naysol verde meh ne'lis ber val.
Only too many soldiers if can't pay them.

55. It's only too many weapons if they're pointing in the wrong direction.
Shi naysol kade meh cuyi bat dush videk.
Only too many swords if they're on wrong neck.

56. Infantry exists to paint targets for people with real guns.
Trat'aab cuyi lenedat par dra'kaane.
Infantry exists to target for cannons.

57. Artillery exists to launch large chunks of budget at an enemy it cannot actually see.
Dra'kaane cuyi tracyar waadasla kyrale at meg val vercopaani cuyi aru'e.
Cannons exist to fire expensive bullets towards what they hope is enemy.

58. The pen is mightiest when it writes orders for more swords.
Miit'bev cuyi dral'ne tuu miit'gaana ke'gyce par majyc kade.
Pen is most powerful when writes orders for more swords.

59. Two wrongs is probably not going to be enough.
Nu'kebb gotal'ur jate 'kay ashnar gotal'an dush.
Not-try to make right until done making wrong.

60. Any weapon's rate of fire is inversely proportional to the number of available targets.
Niviin'yc'shya gar besbe'trayce tra'cya, iviin'yc'shya gar aru'e ornau'kemi.
Slower your gun fires, faster your enemies appear.

New word
Narjahail'miit - intel, recon. Root words narja'hail (scout), miit (word)

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 02 Jan 2018 12:51
by Taljair te Mir'ad
Love the work! Will be reading it closely and maybe using it in real life.

Tal’jair “te Mir’ad” Rusk

(Just to be clear with the name)

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 02 Jan 2018 17:30
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
You, vod, get a special shout-out. Every word in green on this thread came from your Total Guide to Mandalorian Language, and this definitely wouldn't have been possible (or would have been immensely harder) without it. I intend to condense your work into a Beginner's Guide thread once I finish with this project, if you wouldn't mind looking through it once it's finished and making sure I'm not pointing the evaar'adate in the wrong direction.

61. Don't bring big grenades into small rooms.
Ne'jur ori'goorese lo kih'yamikase.
Not-carry big-grenades into small-rooms.

62. Anything labeled "This end toward enemy" is dangerous at both ends.
Gar besbe'trayc gotal aarar kebise. Ne'mird bic ne'lise aara gar.
Your weapon made to hurt things. Not-think it can't hurt you.

63. The brass knows how to do it by knowing who can do it.
Alore kar'tayli boru narir de kar'tayli'an meg lise nari.
Officers know how to do by knowing who can do.

64. An ounce of sniper is worth a pound of suppressing fire.
Sol'kand'ika be ramser cuyi sa jate sa sol'kand be traat'aliit'tracyn.
Gram of sniper is as good as kilogram of squad-fire.

65. After the toss, be the one with the pin, not the one with the grenade.
Ven goor, cuyi verd ti bev, ne'cuyi verd ti goore.
After throw, be soldier with pin, not-be soldier with grenade.

New word:
Sol'kand'ika - gram, minute weight measurement. Root words sol'kand (weight measurement, ~1 kilogram), 'ika (diminutive suffix)

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade

Unread postPosted: 03 Jan 2018 19:34
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
Last five, then I'll go through for some editing passes.

66. Necessity is the mother of deception.
Linib cuyi buir be jehaate.
Necessity is parent of lies.

67. If you can't carry cash, carry a weapon.
Meh gar ne'lis jur waade, jur besbe'trayc.
If you can't carry money, carry weapon.

68. Negotiating from a position of strength does not mean you shouldn't also negotiate from a position near the exits.
Draar mird cuy bid dral ne'ven'linib iviin'yc dayn'yust.
Never think you are so strong you won't need fast exit.

69. Sometimes rank is a function of firepower.
Dul'ca'nara verd'kajii cuyi ru'gyci de tracy'kot.
Sometimes rank is decided by firepower.

70. Failure is not an option - it is mandatory. The option is whether or not to let failure be the last thing you do.
Nibral ne'cuyi gaanada - cuyi mirutre'la. Gaanada cuyi meh nibral ven'cuyi gar kyr'yc nar.
Failure is not choice - it is certain. Choice is if failure will be your final act.

New words
Linib (noun) - need, necessity. Derived root from linibar (verb: need), linyc (adjective: necessary, needed)
Mirutre'la (adjective) - certain. Derived from nemirutre'la (adjective: uncertain).
Tracy'kot (noun) - firepower, strength of arms. Derived from tracyn (noun: fire), kot (noun: strength)

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade - FI

Unread postPosted: 04 Jan 2018 17:35
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
Wow, some of these first translations were clunky. I feel like I should apologize for making people read those. I also feel like I'll be saying that about this entire thread a year from now. Personal growth is fun, but before/after pictures never get less painful.

1. Pillage, then burn.
Gar ne'lis chak meg gar shi ru'ori'hett.
You can't steal what you just blew up.

2. A Sergeant in motion outranks a Lieutenant who doesn't know what's going on.
Nari'an ruus'alor jaon'kaji shebe'an ver'alor.
Moving Sergeant outranks sitting Lieutenant.

3. An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody.
Besbetrayc'naast viini'an par kaysh oyar jaon'kaji anade.
Ordnance technician running for his life outranks everybody.

4. Close air support covereth a multitude of sins.
Gebi can'gal hukaan ne'lise gotali di'kut, a lise gotali mayen ashi.
Close starfighter cover can't fix stupid, but can fix anything else.

5. Close air support and friendly fire should be easier to tell apart.
Gebi can'gal hukaan bal burcya'la tracyn vegyce'haa'tayli sol'tanyc'shya.
Close starfighter cover and friendly fire should look more different.

New words:
Besbetrayc'naast (noun) - ordnance technician, EOD. Roots besbe'trayc (weapon), naast (destroyer)
Jaon'kajir (verb) - outrank. Roots jaon (over), verd'kajii (rank)
Sol'tanyc (adjective) - different. Root sol'tan (one of a kind, unique).

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade - FI

Unread postPosted: 05 Jan 2018 19:10
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
6. If violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Meh hokaad trattok'o, cuyi jorcu gar ne'ru'cuy hokaad'la luubid.
If violence fails, is because you weren't violent enough.

7. If the food is good enough, the grunts will stop complaining about incoming fire.
B'akaan'ade taabi ru'ga'epa de epan. Pirim jate skraan.
Army's march fed by stomach. Use good food.

8. Mockery and derision have their place. Usually, it's on the far side of the airlock.
Takisite bal mir'shebse gana taap. Nu'haamyc'la cuyi chaaj'yc eso be be'sen or'dayn palon.
Insults and smart-asses have their place. Usually it's far side of ship's door.

9. Never turn your back on an enemy.
Nu draar tengaan gar aru'e gar shebs.
Never show your enemy your back.

10. Sometimes the only way out is through... through the hull.
Jahaal be sen'aliite olaro ru jahaal be sen.
Health of crew comes before health of ship.

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade - FI

Unread postPosted: 06 Jan 2018 12:15
by Taljair te Mir'ad
Ge'tal Buy'ce wrote:Wow, some of these first translations were clunky. I feel like I should apologize for making people read those. I also feel like I'll be saying that about this entire thread a year from now.

Dont worry, ner vod. Thats what we’re all here for. To create and mold the language into something good enough to use. Together. As mandos always did.
Marev broka cer. Fist beats a finger.

Re: The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mando'ade - FI

Unread postPosted: 10 Jan 2018 22:56
by Ge'tal Buy'ce
11. Everything is air-droppable at least once.
An vhebesbe liser abiik'barycir sol'ca'nara.
All ground gear can air deploy once.

12. A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
Pel'miite udes a'den. Tion a'den tengaan norac, tracyn kovid.
Soft words calm wrath. When wrath shows its back, shoot its head.

13. Do unto others.

14. "Mad Science" means never stopping to ask "whats the worst thing that could happen?"
Kar'tayl vaii gar tracyn ven'slan ru gar chaa'din bic.
Know where your shot will go before you send it.

15. Only you can prevent friendly fire.
Lenedat'an cuy anade'bora.
Targeting is everyone's job.

16. Your name is in the mouth of others: be sure it has teeth.
Gar gai cuy o'or uram be ash'ade. Jatne meh gan edee.
Your name is in the mouth of other people. Best if it has teeth.

17. The longer everything goes according to plan, the bigger the impending disaster.
Munitshya dajun oya, muun'shya bic ash'am.
The longer the plan stays alive, the harder it dies.

18. If the officers are leading from in front, watch out for an attack from the rear.
Meh alore alor jurkad, ja'haili par aru'ese laam gar shebs.
If the officers lead the assault, watch for enemies at your back.

19. The world is richer when you turn your friends into enemies, but that's not the same as you being richer.
Meg cuyi jatne par oyu ne'cuyi ratiin jatne par gar.
What's best for the galaxy isn't always best for you.

20. If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.
Parjai slan at kaysh meg nari runan'ne nars'nibrar.

Runan: willing. Roots runar (will, volition), 'an (gerund suffix).