Vode An

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Vode An

Unread postby Naux2010 » 22 Feb 2014 01:51

Since I want to actually be able to speak the language I figured songs are a good way to start. Vode An caught my attention right away and love it. There are already translations for it but I wanted to practice my own translating. When I did I was puzzled by the last lines of each stanza.

What I have seen online is this
Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an. (vode an is not my concern. pretty easy and straight translation)
Trans= Forged like the saber in the fires of death

Literally it's: Like Death forged fire saber

Now I understand that mando'a takes out "non essential" words which is very understandable. but when I look at the literal translations and forge it into meaning I understand it as

"We are like death forged by the fires of the saber (sword)"

I was also under the understanding that mando'a sentence structure is like English/basic: subject verb noun. If this is true then the subject of last sentence is "we" followed by the simile "like death" then verb "forged" and then the noun of saber. I feel like my translation is more accurate but it completely changes the meaning.

Please help.
Naux Vader

Strength, honor, loyalty, death.
ba'jur bal beskar'gam,
ara'nov, aliit,
mando'a bal mand'alor---
an vencuyan mhi.
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Re: Vode An

Unread postby Vlet Hansen » 22 Feb 2014 07:16

The sentence structure is based upon personal preference. In the original meaning, the fire of death burns away all but the worthy.
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Re: Vode An

Unread postby Naux2010 » 22 Feb 2014 07:59

I havnt found that. interesting since that is completely different than either of the translations. actually thinking back on the taung the original sounds more of their style. I just want to get this right. I think the mandalorian culture is the was to go and having a solid language is the binding force for a culture. I just feel we need to just solidify the language.
Naux Vader

Strength, honor, loyalty, death.
ba'jur bal beskar'gam,
ara'nov, aliit,
mando'a bal mand'alor---
an vencuyan mhi.
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Re: Vode An

Unread postby Vlet Hansen » 22 Feb 2014 16:58

Per Wookieepedia:
Glory!
One indomitable heart, Brothers all.
We, the wrath of Coruscant, Brothers all.
And glory, eternal glory,
We shall bear its weight together.
Forged like the saber in the fires of death, Brothers all.

From what I remember, there's a lot of leeway with pronunciation and such to make songs work.
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